Radio Shack 20-164 Bedienungsanleitung

Thank you for purchasing your T riple T runking Handheld Radio Scanner from RadioShack . Y our scanner scans conventional frequencies and trunked systems. Please read this user’s guide before installing , setting up and using your new scanner . 20-164 T riple T r unking Handheld Radio Scanner www .radioshack.com What’s Included Scanner Antenna [...]

2 Contents 3 Contents Y our Scanner .................................. 4 Connecting the Antenna .......................... 5 Attaching the Belt Clip ............................. 5 P owering Y our Scanner ............................ 6 Headphones and Speak ers ...................... 9 Keytones and K eylock ........................... 10 Backlight a[...]

2 Contents 3 Contents Y our Scanner .................................. 4 Connecting the Antenna .......................... 5 Attaching the Belt Clip ............................. 5 P owering Y our Scanner ............................ 6 Headphones and Speak ers ...................... 9 Keytones and K eylock ........................... 10 Backlight a[...]

4 5 Y our Scanner Squelch VOL UME / OFF PRI – Priority TEXT – Activates text buttons. PSE – P ause MODE – Changes receive mode. KEY/LIGHT – K eypad lock and backlight. TUNE – Enters T une mode. A TT – Attenuator .  – Navigates functions. SRCH – Search. Headphones Connecting the Antenna T o connect an external antenna, always[...]

4 5 Y our Scanner Squelch VOL UME / OFF Headphones Connecting the Antenna T o connect an external antenna, always follow the installation instructions supplied with the antenna. Use 50-ohm, RG -58, or RG-8, coaxial cable. If the antenna is over 50 feet from the scanner , use RG -8 low-loss dielectric coaxial cable. If necessary , RadioShack carries[...]

6 7 P owering Y our Scanner Y ou can power your scanner with four AA four AA batteries (not supplied), or an external power , or an external power source. Batteries When battery power is low , battery symbol ashes and the scanner beeps every 30 seconds. When battery power is depleted, the scanner turns itself off . F or the longest operation and[...]

6 7 P owering Y our Scanner Y ou can power your scanner with four AA four AA batteries (not supplied), or an external power , or an external power source. Batteries When battery power is low , battery symbol ashes and the scanner beeps every 30 seconds. When battery power is depleted, the scanner turns itself off . F or the longest operation and[...]

8 9 The EP A certied RBRC© Battery Recycling Seal on the nickel-cadmium (Ni-Cd) battery indicates RadioShack voluntarily participates in an industry program to collect and recycle these batteries at the end of their useful life, when taken out of service in the United States or Canada. The RBRC program provides a convenient alternative to placi[...]

8 9 The EP A certied RBRC© Battery Recycling Seal on the nickel-cadmium (Ni-Cd) battery indicates RadioShack voluntarily participates in an industry program to collect and recycle these batteries at the end of their useful life, when taken out of service in the United States or Canada. The RBRC program provides a convenient alternative to placi[...]

10 11 K eytones and Keylock The scanner sounds a tone each time you press a key . T o prevent accidental changes, you can lock the keypad. T o set the keytone: 1. T urn on the scanner . “Multi- system T runking Scanner ” appears. 2. While “Multi-system T runking Scanner ” appears, press 1 to turn on the keytone or 2 to turn it off . T o loc[...]

10 11 K eytones and Keylock The scanner sounds a tone each time you press a key . T o prevent accidental changes, you can lock the keypad. T o set the keytone: 1. T urn on the scanner . “Multi- system T runking Scanner ” appears. 2. While “Multi-system T runking Scanner ” appears, press 1 to turn on the keytone or 2 to turn it off . T o loc[...]

12 13 If you set the squelch precisely at the threshold where the hissing sound stops, the scanner may pick up unwanted, partial, or very weak transmissions. T o prevent this, most users prefer a position a bit past the threshold. With the attenuator on, the scanner might not receive weak signals. Y ou can reduce interference using two attenuator m[...]

12 13 If you set the squelch precisely at the threshold where the hissing sound stops, the scanner may pick up unwanted, partial, or very weak transmissions. T o prevent this, most users prefer a position a bit past the threshold. With the attenuator on, the scanner might not receive weak signals. Y ou can reduce interference using two attenuator m[...]

14 15 CT – FM transmissions with Continuous T one Coded Squelch System (CT CSS) DC – FM transmissions with Digital Coded Squelch (DCS) MO – Motorola T runking System ED – ED ACS T runking System L T – L TR T runking System If you change the receive mode using MODE key , the scanner shows the receive mode for small caps (ex. fm, am, ct, or[...]

14 15 CT – FM transmissions with Continuous T one Coded Squelch System (CT CSS) DC – FM transmissions with Digital Coded Squelch (DCS) MO – Motorola T runking System ED – ED ACS T runking System L T – L TR T runking System If you change the receive mode using MODE key , the scanner shows the receive mode for small caps (ex. fm, am, ct, or[...]

16 17 Notes If the frequency is already stored in the bank, “Dupl.Freq. ChXXX” appears. T o copy the duplicate frequency anyway , press ENT or press CL to cancel. 7. Press MAN . Deleting Saved Frequencies T o delete a saved frequency: 1. Press MAN . 2. Use the number keys to enter the frequency ’s channel number . 3. Press MAN . 4. Press PGM [...]

16 17 If the frequency is already stored in the bank, “Dupl.Freq. ChXXX” appears. T o copy the duplicate frequency anyway , press ENT or press CL to cancel. 7. Press MAN . Deleting Saved Frequencies T o delete a saved frequency: 1. Press MAN . 2. Use the number keys to enter the frequency ’s channel number . 3. Press MAN . 4. Press PGM . M ch[...]

18 19 The application software is also available online at www .starrsoft.com and www .scancat.com. T o clone the scanner data: 1. T urn on both scanners. 2. Connect the connecting cable to each scanner ’s PC/IF jack. ** CL ONE MODE ** appears. 3. Press  . “Conrm to send data?” appears. 4. Press 1 to send the data to the other unit or p[...]

18 19 The application software is also available online at www .starrsoft.com and www .scancat.com. T o clone the scanner data: 1. T urn on both scanners. 2. Connect the connecting cable to each scanner ’s PC/IF jack. ** CL ONE MODE ** appears. 3. Press  . “Conrm to send data?” appears. 4. Press 1 to send the data to the other unit or p[...]

20 21 T o search banks SR0- SR2 : 1. Press SRCH repeatedly to select SR0, SR1, or SR2. 2. T o search the entire band, press FUNC then SRCH . “MAN” (Manual select) or “SRCH” (searches through the band) appears. The scanner starts searching while “SRCH” appears on the display . When the scanner nds an active frequency , it stops search[...]

20 21 T o search banks SR0- SR2 : 1. Press SRCH repeatedly to select SR0, SR1, or SR2. 2. T o search the entire band, press FUNC then SRCH . “MAN” (Manual select) or “SRCH” (searches through the band) appears. The scanner starts searching while “SRCH” appears on the display . When the scanner nds an active frequency , it stops search[...]

22 23 Notes advantages over typical portable frequency counters. Signal Stalker II is more sensitive than portable frequency counters and will detect transmissions at a greater distance. Signal Stalker II rapidly searches the RF spectrum in 1 MHz segments. If it detects a signal, Signal Stalker II searches in ner steps until the signal source is[...]

22 23 advantages over typical portable frequency counters. Signal Stalker II is more sensitive than portable frequency counters and will detect transmissions at a greater distance. Signal Stalker II rapidly searches the RF spectrum in 1 MHz segments. If it detects a signal, Signal Stalker II searches in ner steps until the signal source is found[...]

24 25 2. Press FUNC then L/OUT . The rst locked- out frequency and lockout list appear . If the search bank has no locked-out frequencies, “No Lockout” appears. 3. Press  or  to review the list. The current position and the total locked-out number also appear as “Lockout XX of YY .” (Example: Lockout 10 of 30.) 4. (Optional) T o un[...]

24 25 2. Press FUNC then L/OUT . The rst locked- out frequency and lockout list appear . If the search bank has no locked-out frequencies, “No Lockout” appears. 3. Press  or  to review the list. The current position and the total locked-out number also appear as “Lockout XX of YY .” (Example: Lockout 10 of 30.) 4. (Optional) T o un[...]

26 27 3. Press L/OUT . On the display , “lo” changes to “L O .” 4. T o unlock a locked- out channel, press L/ OUT again. T o review all locked out channels: 1. Press MAN . 2. Repeatedly pressing FUNC and then L/OUT to view each locked-out channel. 3. T o unlock a channel, press L/OUT . “LO ” changes to “lo.” 4. When you nish revi[...]

26 27 3. Press L/OUT . On the display , “lo” changes to “L O .” 4. T o unlock a locked- out channel, press L/ OUT again. T o review all locked out channels: 1. Press MAN . 2. Repeatedly pressing FUNC and then L/OUT to view each locked-out channel. 3. T o unlock a channel, press L/OUT . “LO ” changes to “lo.” 4. When you nish revi[...]

28 29 Notes the Priority channel only if the scanner detects a weather alert. T o perform a weather scan: Press WX . Y our scanner scans through the weather bands then stops on the next available weather broadcast. T o program a weather channel into priority channel: 1. Press WX . 2. Select the weather channel. 3. Press FUNC and then PRI . SAME Sta[...]

28 29 the Priority channel only if the scanner detects a weather alert. T o perform a weather scan: Press WX . Y our scanner scans through the weather bands then stops on the next available weather broadcast. T o program a weather channel into priority channel: 1. Press WX . 2. Select the weather channel. 3. Press FUNC and then PRI . SAME Standby M[...]

30 31 Notes T o enter SAME standby: 1 . Press FUNC , and then WX . The scanner will monitor the selected weather radio station for alerts with FIPS codes that match the codes you entered in the FIPS entry table. 2 . T o exit SAME standby , press FUNC , and then WX . The scanner searches the weather frequencies while SAME standby mode when squelch i[...]

30 31 T o enter SAME standby: 1 . Press FUNC , and then WX . The scanner will monitor the selected weather radio station for alerts with FIPS codes that match the codes you entered in the FIPS entry table. 2 . T o exit SAME standby , press FUNC , and then WX . The scanner searches the weather frequencies while SAME standby mode when squelch is off [...]

32 33 T o set a default tuning frequency: 1. Press MAN . 2. (Optional) Use the number keys to enter the frequency number . 3. Press FUNC , then TUNE . The scanner saves the frequency . For example, if you save 145.31000 MHz, when you press TUNE , the scanner starts tuning at 145.31000 MHz. T runking Setup Instead of transmitting on a specic freq[...]

32 33 T o set a default tuning frequency: 1. Press MAN . 2. (Optional) Use the number keys to enter the frequency number . 3. Press FUNC , then TUNE . The scanner saves the frequency . For example, if you save 145.31000 MHz, when you press TUNE , the scanner starts tuning at 145.31000 MHz. T runking Setup Instead of transmitting on a specic freq[...]

34 35 Fleet Maps F or Motorola T ype I and hybrid systems, you must program a eet map before saving T alk Group IDs. T o program a eet map: 1. Press PGM then TRUNK . 2. Press FUNC , then press  or  to select the bank. 3. If necessary , repeatedly press MODE to select “Motorola.” 4. Press FUNC , then press 8 . “Size Code Setting”[...]

34 35 Fleet Maps F or Motorola T ype I and hybrid systems, you must program a eet map before saving T alk Group IDs. T o program a eet map: 1. Press PGM then TRUNK . 2. Press FUNC , then press  or  to select the bank. 3. If necessary , repeatedly press MODE to select “Motorola.” 4. Press FUNC , then press 8 . “Size Code Setting”[...]

36 37 6. If necessary , use the number keys to enter a new Offset frequency and press ENT . The S in Step blinks. If you try to program an offset frequency in the UHF -Hi bands (806-960 MHz), the scanner ignores the entry . 7. While the S in Step blinks, repeatedly press  or  to select the step number: 5.0, 6.25, 10.0, 12.5, 15.0, 18.75, 20.0[...]

36 37 6. If necessary , use the number keys to enter a new Offset frequency and press ENT . The S in Step blinks. If you try to program an offset frequency in the UHF -Hi bands (806-960 MHz), the scanner ignores the entry . 7. While the S in Step blinks, repeatedly press  or  to select the step number: 5.0, 6.25, 10.0, 12.5, 15.0, 18.75, 20.0[...]

38 39 Searching for T alk Group IDs If you tune the scanner to an active Motorola control channel, the Motorola System ID and the approximate control channel message decode success rate appears. This helps you identify the system and the reception quality . When the scanner decodes control channel data from a Motorola system, CO TRL appears on the [...]

38 39 Searching for T alk Group IDs If you tune the scanner to an active Motorola control channel, the Motorola System ID and the approximate control channel message decode success rate appears. This helps you identify the system and the reception quality . When the scanner decodes control channel data from a Motorola system, CO TRL appears on the [...]

40 41 T o delete a T alk Group ID : 1. Press PGM then TRUNK . 2. Press FUNC ,  or  to select ID memory . 3. Press FUNC then CL . T o delete ALL talk group IDs in a bank: 1. Press PGM . 2. Press TRUNK to enter a T alk Group ID memory mode. 3. Select a T alk Group ID bank using FUNC ,  or  . 4. Press FUNC then 6 . “Clear entire list? P [...]

40 41 T o delete a T alk Group ID : 1. Press PGM then TRUNK . 2. Press FUNC ,  or  to select ID memory . 3. Press FUNC then CL . T o delete ALL talk group IDs in a bank: 1. Press PGM . 2. Press TRUNK to enter a T alk Group ID memory mode. 3. Select a T alk Group ID bank using FUNC ,  or  . 4. Press FUNC then 6 . “Clear entire list? P [...]

42 43 For ED A CS and Motorola (above 406 MHz range), the scanner monitors the control channel between each transmission to identify talk groups. For some Motorola (under 512 MHz range) and L TR systems, the scanner uses the subaudible data sent with each transmission to identify talk groups. T runking Delay Y ou can set a T alk Group ID delay sepa[...]

42 43 For ED A CS and Motorola (above 406 MHz range), the scanner monitors the control channel between each transmission to identify talk groups. For some Motorola (under 512 MHz range) and L TR systems, the scanner uses the subaudible data sent with each transmission to identify talk groups. T runking Delay Y ou can set a T alk Group ID delay sepa[...]

44 45 T alk Group ID Hold Y ou can set your scanner to follow a trunking signal that you want to track during scanning. T o set T alk Group ID Hold: 1. While the scanner is stopped on a voice channel (VC appears), hold down TRUNK until “ID hold ON” appears. When the scanner receives a transmission, the “S” on the display changes to “H.”[...]

44 45 T alk Group ID Hold Y ou can set your scanner to follow a trunking signal that you want to track during scanning. T o set T alk Group ID Hold: 1. While the scanner is stopped on a voice channel (VC appears), hold down TRUNK until “ID hold ON” appears. When the scanner receives a transmission, the “S” on the display changes to “H.”[...]

46 47 T o display the T alk Group ID : 1. If the scanner displays the text tag for a transmission, press TEXT . The ID code appears. 2. Press TEXT again to cancel. T roubleshooting P roblem S olution The scanner is not working at all. Cause: The AC or DC adaptor might not be connected. The batteries might be dead or need to be recharged. If the sca[...]

46 47 T o display the T alk Group ID : 1. If the scanner displays the text tag for a transmission, press TEXT . The ID code appears. 2. Press TEXT again to cancel. T roubleshooting P roblem S olution The scanner is not working at all. Cause: The AC or DC adaptor might not be connected. The batteries might be dead or need to be recharged. If the sca[...]

48 49 P roblem S olution Error message appears when trying to upload or download from a computer . Cause: Y our computer is using Windows XP and does not have the necessary USB cable driver . Download and install the “Windows XP Driver to resolve PC connection error ” le from your scanner ’s Product Support page or the Software Download pa[...]

48 49 P roblem S olution Error message appears when trying to upload or download from a computer . Cause: Y our computer is using Windows XP and does not have the necessary USB cable driver . Download and install the “Windows XP Driver to resolve PC connection error ” le from your scanner ’s Product Support page or the Software Download pa[...]

50 51 Scanning Legally Y our scanner covers frequencies used by many different groups including police and re departments, ambulance services, government agencies, private companies, amateur radio services, military operations, pager services, and wireline (telephone and telegraph) service providers. It is legal to listen to almost every transmi[...]

50 51 Scanning Legally Y our scanner covers frequencies used by many different groups including police and re departments, ambulance services, government agencies, private companies, amateur radio services, military operations, pager services, and wireline (telephone and telegraph) service providers. It is legal to listen to almost every transmi[...]

52 53 References Appendix A: Glossar y Frequency – The signal (expressed in MHz) used by broadcasting radios. T o nd active frequencies, you can use frequency guides available from your local RadioShack store, frequency lists posted on the Internet, or your scanner ’s search function. Bank – A storage unit for a group of channels. A channe[...]

52 53 References Appendix A: Glossar y Frequency – The signal (expressed in MHz) used by broadcasting radios. T o nd active frequencies, you can use frequency guides available from your local RadioShack store, frequency lists posted on the Internet, or your scanner ’s search function. Bank – A storage unit for a group of channels. A channe[...]

54 55 Ch. F req. (MHz) Ch. Freq. (MHz) Ch. Freq. (MHz) 01 26.9650 15 27.1350 29 27.2950 02 26.9750 16 27.1550 30 27.3050 03 26.9850 17 27.1650 31 27.3150 04 27.0050 18 27.1750 32 27.3250 05 27.0150 19 27.1850 33 27.3350 06 27.0250 20 27.2050 34 27.3450 07 27.0350 21 27.2150 35 27.3550 08 27.0550 22 27.2250 36 27.3650 09 27.0650 23 27.2550 37 27.375[...]

54 55 Ch. F req. (MHz) Ch. Freq. (MHz) Ch. Freq. (MHz) 01 26.9650 15 27.1350 29 27.2950 02 26.9750 16 27.1550 30 27.3050 03 26.9850 17 27.1650 31 27.3150 04 27.0050 18 27.1750 32 27.3250 05 27.0150 19 27.1850 33 27.3350 06 27.0250 20 27.2050 34 27.3450 07 27.0350 21 27.2150 35 27.3550 08 27.0550 22 27.2250 36 27.3650 09 27.0650 23 27.2550 37 27.375[...]

56 57 Group Frequency (MHz) Step (kHz) 2 138.000-143.9875 12.5 148.000-150.7875 12.5 3 225.000-379.975 25 380.000-400.000 12.5 Search bank: SR5 Amateur band Receive mode: FM, CT , or DC Group Frequency (MHz) Step (kHz) 0 28.0000-29.7000 5 1 50.0000-54.0000 5 2 144.0000-148.0000 5 3 222.0000-224.9950 5 4 420.0000-450.0000 5 5 902.000-927.9875 12.5 6[...]

56 57 Group Frequency (MHz) Step (kHz) 2 138.000-143.9875 12.5 148.000-150.7875 12.5 3 225.000-379.975 25 380.000-400.000 12.5 Search bank: SR5 Amateur band Receive mode: FM, CT , or DC Group Frequency (MHz) Step (kHz) 0 28.0000-29.7000 5 1 50.0000-54.0000 5 2 144.0000-148.0000 5 3 222.0000-224.9950 5 4 420.0000-450.0000 5 5 902.000-927.9875 12.5 6[...]

58 59 PubSafety Band Freq. (MHz) Step (kHz) Freq. (MHz) Step (kHz) Group 0 Group 2 33.420-33.980 10 453.0375-453.9625 6.25 37.020-37.420 10 458.0375-458.9625 6.25 39.020-39.980 10 460.0125-460.6375 6.25 42.020-42.940 10 462.5500-462.7250 6.25 44.620-45.860 10 465.0125-465.6375 6.25 45.880 467.5625-467.7125 6.25 45.900 Group 3 45.940-46.060 10 764.0[...]

58 59 PubSafety Band Freq. (MHz) Step (kHz) Freq. (MHz) Step (kHz) Group 0 Group 2 33.420-33.980 10 453.0375-453.9625 6.25 37.020-37.420 10 458.0375-458.9625 6.25 39.020-39.980 10 460.0125-460.6375 6.25 42.020-42.940 10 462.5500-462.7250 6.25 44.620-45.860 10 465.0125-465.6375 6.25 45.880 467.5625-467.7125 6.25 45.900 Group 3 45.940-46.060 10 764.0[...]

60 61 Appendix F : Specications Frequency Coverage: 25.000-26.960 MHz ...................(in 10 kHz steps/AM) 26.965-27.405 MHz ...................(in 10 kHz steps/AM) 27.410-29.505 MHz .....................(in 5 kHz steps/AM) 29.510-29.700 MHz ..................... (in 5 kHz steps/FM) 29.710-49.830 MHz ................... (in 10 kHz steps/FM) 4[...]

60 61 Appendix F : Specications Frequency Coverage: 25.000-26.960 MHz ...................(in 10 kHz steps/AM) 26.965-27.405 MHz ...................(in 10 kHz steps/AM) 27.410-29.505 MHz .....................(in 5 kHz steps/AM) 29.510-29.700 MHz ..................... (in 5 kHz steps/FM) 29.710-49.830 MHz ................... (in 10 kHz steps/FM) 4[...]

ADDENDUM Cat. No. 20-163 / 20-164 Pr eprogrammed Fr equencies Y our scanner has 155 preprogrammed fr equencies in the ROM. Y ou can load them into Channels 000 to 154. 1. T urn off the scanner and then turn it on again. 2. When Multi-system T runking Scanner appears, press PGM (or PROG ). 3. Press 1 . CH Base Licensee T ext T ag 000 40.5000 ARMY SE[...]

021 151.9550 PURPLE DOT - BUSINESS BAND PURPLE DOT - BB 022 154.0100 FIRE DEP ARTMENTS FIRE DEP AR TMENT 023 154.0700 FIRE DEP ARTMENTS FIRE DEP AR TMENT 024 154.1300 FIRE DEP ARTMENTS FIRE DEP AR TMENT 025 154.1450 FIRE DEP ARTMENTS FIRE DEP AR TMENT 026 154.1600 FIRE DEP ARTMENTS FIRE DEP AR TMENT 027 154.1750 FIRE DEP ARTMENTS FIRE DEP AR TMENT [...]

054 155.2800 PUBLIC SAFETY SERVICES PUBLIC SAFETY 055 155.2950 PUBLIC SAFETY SERVICES PUBLIC SAFETY 056 155.3250 PUBLIC SAFETY SERVICES PUBLIC SAFETY 057 155.3400 PUBLIC SAFETY SERVICES PUBLIC SAFETY 058 155.3550 PUBLIC SAFETY SERVICES PUBLIC SAFETY 059 155.3700 POLICE DEP ARTMENTS POLICE DEPT . 060 155.3850 PUBLIC SAFETY SERVICES PUBLIC SAFETY 061[...]

080 454.0000 NASCAR TRACK ANNOUNCER NASCAR TRACK 081 460.0250 POLICE DEP ARTMENTS POLICE DEPT . 082 460.0500 POLICE DEP ARTMENTS POLICE DEPT . 083 460.0750 POLICE DEP ARTMENTS POLICE DEPT . 084 460.1000 POLICE DEP ARTMENTS POLICE DEPT . 085 460.1250 POLICE DEP ARTMENTS POLICE DEPT . 086 460.1500 POLICE DEP ARTMENTS POLICE DEPT . 087 460.1750 POLICE[...]

110 460.8500 AIRLINE COMP ANIES A T AIRPORT AIRLINE COMP ANY 111 460.9000 SECURITY ALARM COMP ANIES SECURITY COMP ANY 112 460.9250 SECURITY ALARM COMP ANIES SECURITY COMP ANY 113 460.9500 SECURITY ALARM COMP ANIES SECURITY COMP ANY 114 460.9750 SECURITY ALARM COMP ANIES SECURITY COMP ANY 115 462.5500 GMRS REPEA TER OUTPUT 1 GMRS REPEA TER 1 116 462[...]

138 467.6125 FRS CH 10 FRS CHANNEL 10 139 467.6375 FRS CH 11 FRS CHANNEL 11 140 467.6625 FRS CH 12 FRS CHANNEL 12 141 467.6875 FRS CH 13 FRS CHANNEL 13 142 467.7125 FRS CH 14 FRS CHANNEL 14 143 467.7625 J DOT - BUSINESS BAND J DOT - BB 144 467.8125 K DOT - BUSINESS BAND K DOT - BB 145 467.8500 SIL VER DOT - BUSINESS BAND SIL VER DOT - BB 146 467.87[...]

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