Elmo CRP-26 manual

CRP-22 CRP-26 Classroom Projector Owner’ s Manual Please read this owner's manual carefully before using this product and keep it for future reference. Network Supported Refer to the Owner's Manuals below for details about network function. □ Network Set-up and Operation □ PJ Network Manager[...]

2 Features and Design This Multimedia Projector is designed with the most advanced technology for portability , durability , and ease of use. This projector utilizes built-in multimedia features, a palette of 16.77 million colors, and matrix liquid crystal display (LCD) technology . ♦ Compact Design This projector is designed compact in size and [...]

3 T able of Contents T rademarks Each name of corporations or products in this book is either a registered trad emark or a trademark of its respective corporation. Features and Design ................... 2 T able of Contents ...................... 3 T o the Owner .......................... 4 Safety Instructions ..................... 5 Air Circulati[...]

4 T o the Owner CAUTION: TO REDUCE THE RISK OF ELECTRIC SHOCK, DO NOT REMOVE COVER (OR BACK). NO USER-SERVICEABLE P ARTS INSIDE EXCEPT LAMP REPLACEMENT . REFER SERVICING T O QUALIFIED SERVICE PERSONNEL. THIS SYMBOL INDICA TES THA T DANGEROUS VOL T AGE CONSTITUTING A RISK OF ELECTRIC SHOCK IS PRESENT WITHIN THIS UNIT . THIS SYMBOL INDICA TES THA T T[...]

5 Safety Instructions All the safety and operating instructions should be read before the product is operated. Read all of the instructions given here and retain them for later use. Unplug this projector from AC power supply before cleaning. Do not use liquid or aerosol cleaners. Use a damp cloth for cleaning. Follow all warnings and instructions m[...]

6 Safety Instructions Openings in the cabinet are provided for ventilation. T o ensure reliable operation of the product and to protect it from overheating, these openings must not be blocked or covered. CAUTION Hot air is exhausted from the exhaust vent. When using or installing the projector , the following precautions should be taken. – Do not[...]

7 Safety Instructions Compliance Federal Communications Commission Notice Note: This equipment has been tested and found to comply with the limits for a Class B digital device, pursuant to Part 15 of the FCC Rules. These limits are designed to provide reasonable protection against harmful interference in a residential installation. This equipment g[...]

8 Part Names and Functions ⑤ ⑦ ⑧ ③ ② Front Back ⑥ ① T op controls and Indicators ② Zoom Ring ③ Focus Ring ④ Speaker ⑤ Infrared Remote Receiver ⑥ Projection Lens ⑦ Lens Cap (See page 60 for attaching.) ⑧ Air Intake V ent ⑨ Lamp Cover ⑩ T erminals and Connectors ⑪ LAN Connection T erminal ⑫ Power Cord Connector ⑬[...]

9 Part Names and Functions Rear T erminal ⑦ AUDIO IN Connect the audio output signal from computer or video equipment to this jack (pp.14-16). ⑤ VIDEO IN Connect the composite video output signal to this jack (p.15). ② COMPUTER IN 1 /S-VIDEO IN / COMPONENT IN Connect analog RGB output signal from a computer , S-VIDEO output signal from video [...]

10 Part Names and Functions T op Control ⑦ LAMP REPLACE indicator Lights yellow when the projection lamp reaches its end of life (pp.61, 69). ⑧ W ARNING indicator – Lights red when the projector detects an abnormal condition. – Blinks red when the internal temperature of the projector exceeds the operating range (pp.58, 69). ④ ON/ST AND?[...]

11 Part Names and Functions  Note: T o ensure safe operation, please observe the following precautions: – Do not bend, drop, or expose the remote control to moisture or heat. – For cleaning, use a soft dry cloth. Do not apply benzene, thinner , spray , or any chemical material. Remote Control ② AUTO SET button Execute the setting of Auto s[...]

12 Part Names and Functions T o ensure safe operation, please observe the following precautions : ● Use two (2) AAA or LR03 type alkaline batteries. ● Always replace batteries in sets. ● Do not use a new battery with a used battery . ● Avoid contact with water or liquid. ● Do not expose the remote control to moisture or heat. ● Do not d[...]

13 Positioning the Projector For projector positioning, see the figures below . The projector should be set perpendicularly to the plane of the screen. Installation  Note:  • The brightness in the room has a great influence on picture quality .  It is recommended to limit ambient ligh[...]

14 Installation Connecting to a Computer Unplug the power cords of both the projector and external equipment from the AC outlet before connecting cables. Cables used for connection • VGA Cables (Mini D-sub 15 pin) • VGA/DC power combined cord (supplied) • Audio Cables  Note: • Input sound to the AUDIO IN terminal when using the COMPUTER [...]

15 Installation Connecting to V ideo Equipment Cables used for connection •VideoCable •S-VideoCable •S-Video-VGA Cable • AudioCables(MiniPlug:stereo) (Cables are not supplied with the projector . )  Note:  • Whenthe AUDIOOUTisplugged-in,theprojector'sbuilt-in?[...]

16 Installation Connecting to Component V ideo and RGB ( Scart) Equipment  Note:  • Whenthe AUDIOOUTisplugged-in,theprojector'sbuilt-inspeakerisnotavailable.  • Seepage72fororderingoptionalcables. Cables used for connection • AudioCables(MiniPlug:stereo)?[...]

17 Installation Connecting the AC Power Cord This projector uses nominal input voltages of 100-120 V or 200–240 V AC and it automatically selects the correct input voltage. It is designed to work with single-phase power systems having a grounded neutral conductor . T o reduce the risk of electrical shock, do not plug into any other type of power [...]

18 The preparation display will disappear after 30 seconds. (See page 52 for Lamp control status.) T urning On the Projector Connect the projector ’s AC power cord into an AC outlet. The POWER indicator lights red. Open the lens cap (see pages 8, 60). Press the ON/ST AND-BY button on the top control or on the remote control. The POWER indicator l[...]

19 What is PIN code? PIN (Personal Identification Number) code is a security code that allows the person who knows it to operate the projector . Setting a PIN code prevents unauthorized use of the projector . A PIN code consists of a four-digit number . Refer to the PIN code lock function in the Setting Menu on pages 53-54 for locking operation of [...]

20 TO MAINT AIN THE LIFE OF THE LAMP , ONCE YOU TURN THE PROJECTOR ON, W AIT A T LEAST FIVE MINUTES BEFORE TURNING IT OFF . T urning Off the Projector  Note:  • WhentheOnstartfunctionissetto On , the projector will be turned on automatically by connecting the AC power cord to an AC outlet (p.50).  • The[...]

21 Basic Operation How to Operate the On-Screen Menu The projector can be adjusted or set via the On-Screen Menu. The menus have a hierarchical structure, with a main menu that is divided into submenus, which are further divided into other submenus. For each adjustment and setting procedure, refer to respective sections in this manual. Use the Poin[...]

22 Menu Bar For detailed functions of each menu, see “Menu T ree” on pages 67-68. Basic Operation ① ② ③ ④ ⑤ ⑥ ⑦ ⑧ Main Menu Sub-Menu ⑨ ⑩ ③ Image select For computer source, used to select an image mode from among Dynamic , Standard , Real , Blackboard(Green) , Colorboard and image 1 - 4 (p.32). For Video source, used to se[...]

23 Basic Operation Rotate the Zoom Ring to zoom in and out. Rotate the Focus Ring to adjust the focus of the image. Zoom and Focus Adjustment If a projected picture still has keystone distortion after pressing the AUTO SETUP button on the top control or the AUTO SET button on the remote control, correct the image manually as follows: Press the KEYS[...]

24 Sound Adjustment 1 2 Press the MENU button to display the On-Screen Menu. Use the Point ▲▼ buttons to select Sound . Press the Point ► or the SELECT button to access the submenu items. Press the VOLUME+/– buttons on the top control or on the remote control to adjust the volume. The volume dialog box appears on the screen for a few second[...]

25 Basic Operation Remote Control Operation Using the remote control for some frequently used operations is advisable. Just pressing one of the buttons enables you to make the desired operation quickly without calling up the On-Screen Menu. Press the COMPUTER 1/2, VIDEO, S-VIDEO and COMPONENT buttons on the remote control to select the input source[...]

26 Basic Operation black out → normal → black out → normal ••••• Press the NO SHOW button on the remote control to black out the image. T o restore to normal, press the NO SHOW button again or press any other button. The screen changes each time you press the NO SHOW button as follows. NO SHOW button Press the P-TIMER[...]

27 Choose either Computer 1(RGB) or Computer 2(RGB) by pressing the COMPUTER 1 or Computer 2 button on the remote control. Before using these buttons, correct input source should be selected through Menu operation as described below . 1 Input Menu 2 3 Computer Input COMPUTER 1 button  Note: When the Input Search function is set to On1 or On2 in [...]

28 Computer Input PC System Menu PC System Menu Computer System Selection This projector automatically tunes to various types of computers based on VGA, SVGA, XGA, SXGA, WXGA, UXGA or WUXGA with its Multi-scan system and Auto PC Adjustment. If a computer is selected as a signal source, this projector automatically detects the signal format and tune[...]

29 Computer Input Auto PC Adjustment function is provided to automatically adjust Fine sync , T otal dots , Horizontal and V ertical positions to conform to your computer . PC adjust Menu Auto PC Adjustment T o store adjustment parameters The adjusted parameters from the Auto PC Adjustment can be stored in the projector . Once the parameters are st[...]

30 Computer Input PC adjust Menu Manual PC Adjustment Some computers employ special signal formats which may not be tuned by Multi-scan system of this projector . Manual PC Adjustment enables you to precisely adjust several parameters to match those signal formats. The project or has five indepe ndent mem ory areas to store th ose para meters ma nu[...]

31 Computer Input Store T o store the adjusted data, select Store and then press the Point ► or the SELECT button. Move the highlight to one of the Modes 1 to 5 in which you want to store, and then press the SELECT button. Mode free T o clear the stored data, select Mode free and then press the Point ► or the SELECT button. Move the highlight t[...]

32 Computer Input Image select Menu IMAGE button Dynamic Real Image 1 Image 2 Image 3 Image Mode Selection Image 4 Blackboard (Green) Standard Remote Control IMAGE button Select the desired image mode among Dynamic , Standard , Real , Blackboard (Green) , Colorboard , Image 1 , Image 2 , Image 3 and Image 4 by pressing the IMAGE button on the remot[...]

33 Computer Input Image Adjust Menu Image Adjustment Reset Press the MENU button to display the On-Screen Menu. Use the Point ▲▼ buttons to select Image adjust and then press the Point ► or the SELECT button. 1 2 Use the Point ▲▼ buttons select the desired item and then press the SELECT button to display the adjustment dialog box. Use the[...]

34 Computer Input Store This projector has the picture screen resize function, which enables you to customize the image size. Screen Menu Screen Size Adjustment Provide the image to fit the screen size. Normal T rue Provide the image in its original size. When the original image size is larger or smaller than the screen size (1024 x 768), the proje[...]

35 Computer Input Select Digital zoom + . The On-Screen Menu disappears and D. zoom + appears. Press the SELECT button to expand the image size. Use the Point ▲▼◄► buttons to pan the image. The Panning function can work only when the image is larger than the screen size. A projected image can be also expanded by pressing the D.ZOOM ▲ or t[...]

36 Choose Video or S-video by pressing the VIDEO or the S-VIDEO button on the remote control. Before using these buttons, correct input source should be selected through menu operation as described below . 1 2 Input Menu Input Source Selection (V ideo, S-video) V ideo Input Direct Operation Menu Operation When video input signal is connected to the[...]

37 V ideo Input Choose Computer 1(Component) or Computer 1(Scart) by pressing the COMPONENT or the COMPUTER 1 button on the remote control. Before using these buttons, correct input source should be selected through Menu operation as described below . 1 Input Menu 2 Use the Point ▲▼ buttons to select Computer 1 and then press the Point ► butt[...]

38 V ideo Input V ideo System Selection 1 A V System Menu (Video or S-video) A V System Menu (Component) 2 If the projector cannot reproduce proper video image, select a specific broadcast signal format from among PA L , SECAM , NTSC , NTSC 4.43 , P AL-M , and P AL-N . P AL/SECAM/NTSC/NTSC4.43/P AL-M/P AL-N T h e p r o j e c t o r a u t o m a t i c[...]

39 V ideo Input Image select Menu Select the desired image mode among Dynamic , Standard , Cinema , Blackboard (Green) , Colorboard , Image 1 , Image 2 , Image 3 and Image 4 by pressing the IMAGE button on the remote control. Standard Picture mode adjusted with fine tone. Cinema Blackboard (Green) Image 1–4 IMAGE button Dynamic Cinema Image Mode [...]

40 V ideo Input Image Adjustment 1 2 Press the Point ◄ button to decrease the contrast; press the Point ► button to increase the contrast (from 0 to 63). Press the Point ◄ button to decrease the brightness; press the Point ► button to increase the brightness (from 0 to 63). Contrast Brightness Press the Point ◄ button to lighten red to[...]

41 V ideo Input Use the Point ◄► buttons to adjust the gamma value to obtain a better balance of contrast (from 0 to 15). Gamma Press the Point ◄ button to decrease the sharpness of the image; press the Point ► button to increase the sharpness of the image (from 0 to 15). Sharpness An interlaced video signal can be displayed in progressive [...]

42 V ideo Input This projector has the picture screen resize function, which enables you to customize the image size. Normal Screen Size Adjustment Screen Menu 1 2 Provide the image at the 4:3 normal video aspect ratio. Custom  Note:  • Whennosignalisdetected, Normal is set automatically .  • Theadjustableran[...]

43 Setting Setting Language The language used in the On-Screen Menu is available in English , German , French , Italian , Spanish , Portuguese , Dutch , Swedish , Finnish , Polish , Hungarian , Romanian , Russian , T urkish , Kazakh , Chinese , Korean , Japanese , and Thai . Setting Menu Press the MENU button to display the On-Screen Menu. Press th[...]

44 Setting  Note:  • Auto Keystone corrects vertical distortion only , not correct horizontal distortion.  •The AutoKeystonefunctioncannotworkwhen the Ceiling feature is set On in the Setting menu (p.49).  •Perfectcorrectionoftheimagedistortioncannot be ensured with the Auto setup[...]

45 Setting Keystone This function is used to store or reset the keystone correction when the AC power cord is unplugged. Store .... ... Keep the keystone correction even when the AC power cord is unplugged. Reset ....... Release the keystone correction when the AC power cord is unplugged. T o correct keystone distortion, press the SELECT button. Ke[...]

46 Setting Logo (Logo and Logo PIN code lock settings) Logo select This function allows you to customize the screen logo with Logo select , capture , Logo PIN code lock and Logo PIN code change functions.  Note: When On is selected in the Logo PIN code lock function, Logo select and Capture functions cannot be selected. Logo select This function[...]

47 Setting Capture Capture This function enables you to capture an image being projected to use it for a starting-up display or interval of presentations. Select Capture and press the SELECT button. A confirmation box appears and select Y es to capture the projected image. After capturing the projected image, go to the Logo select function and set [...]

48 Setting Enter a Logo PIN code Use the Point ▲▼ buttons to enter a number . Press the Point ◄► buttons to fix the number and move the red frame pointer to the next box. The number changes to  . If you fixed an incorrect number , use the Point ◄► buttons to move the pointer to the number you want to correct, and then enter the corre[...]

49 Setting Ceiling Rear Ceiling When this function is set to On , the picture will be top/ bottom and left/right reversed. This function is used to project the image from a ceiling-mounted projector . Rear When this function is set to On , the picture will be left/right reversed. This function is used to project the image from rear of the screen. T[...]

50 Setting Power management T ime left before Lamp is off. Power management For reducing power consumption as well as maintaining the lamp life, the Power management function turns off the projection lamp when the projector is not operated for a certain period. Select one of the following options: Ready ............... When the lamp has been fully [...]

51 Setting Standby mode This function is available when operating the projector via network. Network .... Supply the power to the network function even after turning off the projector by pressing the ON/ST AND-BY button on the remote control. Y ou can turn on/off the projector via network, modify network environment, and receive an e-mail about pro[...]

52 Setting Remote control This function allows you to change brightness of the screen. Lamp control Remote control Lamp life control Lamp control Select the lamp operation when the total lighting time of a lamp exceeds the recommended total hours of use. Mode 1 .............. The lamp can be turned on even after exceeding the recommended total hour[...]

53 This function locks the top control and remote control buttons to prevent operation by unauthorized persons. Select Key lock and then press the SELECT button, and select the desired item by pressing the Point ▲▼ buttons. ..... Unlocked. ..... Lock the operation of the top control. T o unlock, use the remote control. ..... Lock the operation [...]

54 Setting Use the Point ▲▼ buttons to select Off , On1 or On2 , and then press the SELECT button to make a choice. Change the PIN code lock setting Enter a PIN code Use the Point ▲▼ buttons to enter a number . Press the Point ◄ ► buttons to fix the number and move the red frame pointer to the next box. The number changes to  . If yo[...]

55 Setting This function provides the following options in the cooling fans’ operation when the projector is turned off (p.20). L1 ...... Normal operation L2 ...... Slower and lower-sound than the normal operation ( L1 ), but it takes more time to cool the projector down. Fan This projector provides Fan control function in the Setting menu. Choos[...]

56 Setting Factory default This function returns all setting values except for the User logo , PIN code lock , Logo PIN code lock , Lamp counter and Filter counter to the factory default settings. Factory default W arning log This function records anomalous operations while the projector is in operation and use it when diagnosing faults. Up to 10 w[...]

57 Information Input Source Information Display The Information Menu is used for checking the status of the image signal being projected and the operation of the projector . H-sync freq. V -sync freq. Lamp counter Information Menu The horizontal frequency of the input signal is displayed in KHz , or - - - - - when no signal. The vertical frequency [...]

58 The W ARNING indicator shows the state of the function which protects the projector . Check the state of the W ARNING indicator and the POWER indicator to take proper maintenance. W ARNING indicator The projector is shut down and the W ARNING indicator is blinking red. When the temperature inside the projector reaches a certain level, the projec[...]

59 Maintenance and Cleaning T urn off the projector , and unplug the AC power cord from the AC outlet. Remove the panel front assembly by pulling the latch horizontally . Remove the panel net by pulling the latch horizontally and then remove it leftward. 1 2 Filter prevents dust from accumulating on the optical elements inside the projector . Shoul[...]

60 Maintenance and Cleaning Cleaning the Projector Cabinet Cleaning the Projection Lens Unplug the AC power cord before cleaning. Gently wipe the projection lens with a cleaning cloth that contains a small amount of non-abrasive camera lens cleaner , or use a lens cleaning paper or commercially available air blower to clean the lens. Avoid using an[...]

61 Maintenance and Cleaning When the projection lamp of the projector reaches its end of life, the Lamp replacement icon appears on the screen and LAMP REPLACE indicator lights yellow . Replace the lamp with a new one promptly . The timing when the LAMP REPLACE indicator should light is depending on the lamp mode. Follow these steps to replace the [...]

62 Maintenance and Cleaning This projector uses a high-pressure lamp which must be handled carefully and properly . Improper handling may result in accidents, injury , or create a fire hazard. ● Lamp life may differ from lamp to lamp and according to the environment of use. There is no guarantee of the same life for each lamp. Some lamps may fail[...]

63 Problem: – Solutions No power – Plug the power cord of the projector into the AC outlet. – See if the POWER indicator lights red. – W ait until the POWER indicator stops blinking to turn on the projector again. The projector can be turned on after the POWER indicator turns red. See page 18. – Check the W ARNING indicator . If the W ARN[...]

64 Appendix No image – Check the connection between your computer or video equipment and the projector . See pages 14-16. – See if the input signal is correctly output from your computer . Some laptop computers may need to change the setting for monitor output when connecting to a projector . See your computer ’s instruction manual for the se[...]

65 Appendix The image is distorted or runs off. – Check PC adjust menu or Screen menu and adjust them. See pages 30-31, 34-35. PIN code dialog box appears – PIN code lock is being set. Enter a PIN code (the “1234” or numbers at start-up. you have set). See pages 19, 53-54. The Remote Control does – Check the batteries. not work. – Make [...]

66 W ARNING : High voltages are used to operate this projector . Do not attempt to open the cabinet. If problems still persist after following all operating instructions, contact the dealer where you purchased the projector or the service center . Specify the model number and explain about the problem. We will advise you how to obtain service. This[...]

67 Appendix Menu T ree SVGA 1 Mode 1 Mode 2 - - - - T otal dots Horizontal V ertical Display area H Display area V Reset Dynamic Real Blackboard (Green) Image 1 Image 2 Image 3 Image Adjust Contrast Brightness Color temp. Red Gamma Store Normal T rue Digital zoom – Full 0–63 0–63 Computer Input PC adjust Mode 1 Mode 2 Mode 3 Mode 4 Mode 5 Ima[...]

68 Appendix Auto P AL SECAM NTSC NTSC 4.43 P AL-M P AL-N Video Input Auto 1080i 1035i 720p 575p 480p 575i 480i Dynamic Cinema Blackboard (Green) Image 1 Image 2 Image 3 Normal 0–63 0–63 Off Image select System (2) System (3) Image Adjust Contrast Brightness Color T int Red Green Blue Sharpness Reset Store Gamma Progressive 0–63 0–63 0–63 [...]

69 Check the indicators for projector condition. •••green. •••red •••off •••blinksgreen. When the projection lamp reaches its end of life, the LAMP REPLACE indicator lights yellow . When this indicator lights yellow , replace the projection lamp with a new one promptly . (pp. 55, 61) Th[...]

70 Appendix Compatible Computer Specifications Basically this projector can accept the signal from all computers with the V -, H-Frequency mentioned below and less than 140 MHz of Dot Clock. When selecting these modes, PC adjustment can be limited. ON-SCREEN DISPLA Y RESOLUTION H-Freq. (KHz) V -Freq. (Hz) VGA 1 640 x 480 31.47 59.88 VGA 2 720 x 400[...]

71 Appendix T echnical Specifications Mechanical Information Projector T ype Classroom Projector Dimensions (W x H x D) 13.13" x 3.35" x 9.72" (333.5mm x 85.2mm x 247.0mm) (Not including protrusions) Net Weight 5.5 lbs (2.5 kg)  Foot Adjustment 0˚to10˚      Panel Resolution LCD Panel System 0.55&quo[...]

72 Appendix Model No. COMPONENT -VGA Cable : POA-CA-COMPVGA S-video-VGA Cable : POA-CA-VGAS SCART -VGA Cable : POA-CA-SCART VGA-Cable (10 m) : KA-MC-DB10 The parts listed below are optionally available. When ordering those parts, specify the item name and Model No. to the sales dealer . Optional Parts Accessories Owner ’s Manual (CD-ROM) Quick Re[...]

73 Appendix This projector is compliant with PJLink Standard Class 1 of JBMIA (Japan Business Machine and Information System Industries Association). This projector supports all commands defined by PJLink Class 1 and is verified conformance with PJLink Standard Class 1. For PJ Link password, see the owner ’s manual of “Network Set-up and Operat[...]

74 Appendix COMPUTER IN 1/S-VIDEO/COMPONENT IN /MONITOR OUT (ANALOG) T erminal: Analog RGB (Mini D-sub 15 pin) 5 1 2 3 4 10 9 6 7 8 15 14 13 11 12 Configurations of T erminals Red/Cr/S-C Input/Output Ground (Horiz.sync.) Green/Y/S-Y Input/Output ----- Blue/Cb/--- Input/Output Ground (Red) Ground (Green) Ground (Blue) 1 5 2 4 3 6 7 8 +5V Power/-----[...]

75 Appendix Appendix Write down the PIN code number in the column below and keep it with this manual securely . If you forgot or lost the number and unable to operate the projector , contact the service station. PIN Code Number Memo Factory default set No: 1 2 3 4* Factory default set No: 4 3 2 1* Put the label below (supplied) on in a prominent pl[...]

76 Appendix Dimensions Unit: mm(inch) Screw Holes for Ceiling Mount Screw: M4 Depth: 10.0(0.39) 99.5 (3.92) 46.0 (1.81) 9.0 (0.35) 85.2 (3.35) 138.0 (5.43) 247.0 (9.72) 333.5 (13.13) º 10 MAX 50.0 (1.97) 90.0 (3.54) 19.0 (0.75) 90.0 (3.54) 217.0 (8.54) 51.0 (2.01) 10.0 (0.39) 20.0 (0.79)[...]

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